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NAIM的时鲜货:supernait,推SP100,比较CD和解码 [复制链接]

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离线sanyue
 
只看楼主 倒序阅读 0 发表于: 2008-01-17
— 本帖被 sanyue 从 Naim 名 移动到本区(2008-06-23) —
春节前希望可以有的听。

我希望能够有它,简简单单的搞定SP100。
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离线sanyue
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离线sanyue
只看该作者 2 发表于: 2008-01-17
SUPERNAIT reference integrated amplifier
SUPERNAIT is not just a superbly musical amplifier; it's an analogue and digital audio control and connection hub that just happens to have some of the world's best audio amplification attached. SUPERNAIT's preamplifier section is directly descended from Naim's superlative reference series preamplifiers, and its power amplifier incorporates all the techniques and know-how that give voice to the traditional Naim qualities of rhythmic musicality.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO?
Along with sound quality, connection is SUPERNAIT's forte. The 21st Century has seen an explosion of music carriers, formats and delivery systems. With analogue inputs via both DIN and phono sockets, digital inputs via both coaxial and optical sockets, a combined digital optical/analogue front panel input and on-board re-clocked digital to analogue conversion, there's very little that SUPERNAIT can't handle.
SUPERNAIT is just as versatile with its outputs. In addition to the power amplifier speaker outputs, it carries separate record, preamplifier, bi-amp/ subwoofer outputs, and a front panel mounted headphone output driven from a separate power amplifier. Independent record and listen selections add to the versatility, and flexible input assignment means any input socket - analogue or digital - can be assigned to any source selection button. SUPERNAIT versatility knows no bounds.
JUST ADD SPEAKERS
Once everything is connected, just add speakers, turn up the volume and listen. The versatility of SUPERNAIT doesn't disguise the fact that it is a world-class amplifier. The preamplifier section is transparent, detailed and fast - just like Naim's other preamplifiers - and the SUPERNAIT power amplifier delivers generous, muscular and musical power into almost any speaker load.
STILL NEED MORE?
An upgrade path has always been a part of the Naim offering. While SUPERNAIT caters for your connectivity needs, we've also covered your future upgrade requirements. SUPERNAIT is probably the only amplifier you'll ever need; however in true Naim style, we've still anticipated you aspiring to greater things in the future. And if you do, a power supply, power amplifier or even a phono stage is only an upgrade away.
A LANDMARK AMPLIFIER
A new integrated amplifier from Naim doesn't come along very often. With its analogue and digital versatility, SUPERNAIT offers the connectivity that 21st century music lovers demand both today and tomorrow, along with the world-class musical performance they deserve.
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离线sanyue
只看该作者 3 发表于: 2008-01-17
SUPERNAIT Features:

  • 400VA transient output capability
  • Custom designed toroidal transformer with seven separate windings
  • Upgradeable with FLATCAP, HI-CAP or SUPERCAP
  • Bi-ampable
  • On-board DAC powers down when using analogue input
  • S/PDIF Digital inputs (Coax and Optical)
  • Six Analogue Inputs, Five digital inputs
  • Powered input for use with Stageline or Prefix phono stages
  • Input mapping
  • Subwoofer output
  • Front-panel headphone socket
  • Can be used as a preamplifier or power amplifier
  • Independent listen and record
  • Bi-directional RS232 port for connection for custom install into 'intelligent homes'
  • Remote Controlled via Remote or optional RS232
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Specifications
Inputs
11 (six analogue, five digital)
Tape outputs
2
Tape output level
75mV, 600 Ohms
Input sensitivities
75mV, 47 kOhms
Digital Inputs
S/PDIF up to 24-bit/96kHz
Pre-amp output level
0.775mV, <50 Ohms
Input overload margin, all audio frequencies
40dB
Power output continuous [8 Ohms]
80 Watts per channel
Transient capability
400VA
Voltage gain
+29dB
Quiescent consumption
10VA
Mains supply
100-120V or 220-240V, 50/60Hz
Dimensions (H x W x D)
87 x 432 x 314mm
Finish
Black
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离线yysnb
只看该作者 4 发表于: 2008-01-17
多少大米
离线sanyue
只看该作者 5 发表于: 2008-01-17
大照片
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离线sanyue
只看该作者 6 发表于: 2008-01-17
引用第4楼yysnb于2008-01-17 16:24发表的 :
多少大米


四万左右吧。
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离线sanyue
只看该作者 7 发表于: 2008-01-17
看看200的参数:

NAP 200 power amplifier
During the years of research that went into the NAP 500 amplifier, many technical developments were made that could be successfully applied to the existing products. Many of these developments, along with the elegant new styling have been incorporated, resulting in the 'Classic' line-up.
Like the flagship NAP 500, the NAP 200 uses a new circuit design with improved earthing arrangements built on a very high quality, anti-resonance main audio circuit board.
Anti-vibration, resonance-controlling feet serve to protect the sensitive internal components from resonance and microphonic vibration.
A new, top-quality 430VA toroidal transformer provides more than 300VA of transient power. Separate windings provide dedicated left and right channel rectified supplies with two smoothing capacitors per channel. The NAP 200 also has a separate winding providing a pre-amplifier power supply. This enables the NAP 200 to be used in a two-box amplifier configuration with a Naim pre-amplifier such as the NAC 202.
The naim NAP 200 is stable into any load and able to drive a 2-ohm load for long periods of time.
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Specifications
Power output continuous [8 Ohm]
70 Watts
Transient capability
300 VA
Voltage gain
+ 29 dB
Input impedance
18 kOhm
Frequency response
-3dB @ 2Hz & 65kHz
Mains supply
100V, 115V, 230V (50 or 60Hz)
Dimensions (H x W x D)
87 x 432 x 314mm
Finish
Black
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离线sanyue
只看该作者 8 发表于: 2008-01-17
再看看250的参数:

NAP 250 power amplifier
The newest Naim NAP 250 delivers speed, power and agility providing exceptional detail and musicality in a package built to swing for another 25 years.
For 27 years the NAP 250 has been at the heart of thousands of high-quality audio systems around the world. During the years of research that went into the NAP 500, many technical developments came about that could be successfully applied to the NAP 250. Many of these developments, along with the elegant new styling have been incorporated, resulting in a new Classic line-up.
Like the flagship NAP 500, and the NAP 300, the NAP 250 uses a new circuit design with improved earthing arrangements, built on a very high quality, anti-resonance main audio circuit board. The NAP 250 uses the same 007 transistors that were custom-designed for the NAP 500. These outstanding components each provide up to 80 amps and 350 Watts, negating the need to use parallel pairs of transistors (which always have a negative effect on sound). Additional 007 transistors are used in the fully regulated power supply, ensuring the very best performance.
Anti-vibration, resonance-controlling feet serve to protect the sensitive internal components from resonance and microphonic vibration.
A new top-quality transformer is used providing the ability to deliver more than 15 Amps and swing a massive 400VA on transients. The NAP 250 is stable into any load and able to drive a 2-Ohm load for long periods of time.
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Specifications
Power output continuous [8 Ohm]
80 Watts
Transient capability
400 VA
Voltage gain
+ 29 dB
Input impedance
18 kOhm
Frequency response
-3dB @ 2Hz & 65kHz
Mains supply
100V, 115V, 230V (50 or 60Hz)
Dimensions (H x W x D)
87 x 432 x 314mm
Finish
Black
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离线bothfan
只看该作者 9 发表于: 2008-01-17
上海的一块汽车牌照的价钱。
纵有千般事务,万种缘由,莫如放下一日,出离尘世,与友辈暂享赏心乐事。浮生之中,且留半日闲散以慰平生纵横驰骋之志。
离线sanyue
只看该作者 10 发表于: 2008-01-17
引用第9楼bothfan于2008-01-17 16:38发表的 :
上海的一块汽车牌照的价钱。


这个比牌照大一些,算起来,还是合算的,呵呵
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离线sanyue
只看该作者 11 发表于: 2008-01-24
下周可以抵达了,春节前可以感受一下了,呵呵
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离线ast123456
只看该作者 12 发表于: 2008-01-24
好好比较一下,关注他和NAIM 前后比较的结果
离线sanyue
只看该作者 13 发表于: 2008-01-24
呵呵,要比较的话,起码要202+200了,按照功率就要:250来对应了,估计是没有这个机会了。

我这里目前只有122X+150X呢。
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离线wingkindy
只看该作者 14 发表于: 2008-01-24
如果真的能够达到202+200的水准就太超值拉
SUPERNAIT应该是迎合现代数码音源的需求,这不就和NAIM一直追求的模拟味背道而驰吗?
或者NAIM有本事让MP3放出模拟味来................无限遐想中
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离线wasd112
只看该作者 15 发表于: 2008-01-24
我就不考虑了。    

啥时候有机会去南京呢? 
离线5881a
只看该作者 16 发表于: 2008-01-24
好东西,可以说比胆机还"胆机".如果米够,属于"夫何求也"的宝贝.值得拥有!
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离线hifi40cn
只看该作者 17 发表于: 2008-01-25
Supernait用的电源和200大小相同。功放部分也基本相同。但功放管的作功区域比200要多一些。 这是功率比200大的原因。

指望Supernait比200素质高,恐怕难。但Naim的调较一流。音质不会有明显的下降。

而Supernait没有用250中使用的和晶体管厂家共同开发的007晶体管。和250更应该有区别。

Naim推荐用200作为Supernait的升级,也应该等于承认其低200一等。另外Naim的定价是经过慎重考虑的,级别之间有明显的差异,其价格比202+200低,当然不会胜过分体的202+200。

但Supernait集成了许多数字处理的东西在一个盒子了,再加上是前后级,价格也比202+200低。肯定有它的客户群。
[ 此贴被hifi40cn在2008-01-25 15 ]
离线hifi40cn
只看该作者 18 发表于: 2008-01-25
引用第16楼5881a于2008-01-24 17:00发表的  :
好东西,可以说比胆机还"胆机".如果米够,属于"夫何求也"的宝贝.值得拥有!



在老赵的店里试听他开发的胆机,音色的确有非常大的相同之处。是Naim追求胆机的风格还是老赵追求Naim的风格我还真说不清。

不管怎么,老赵调较声音的本领可以和Naim有一比。
离线sanyue
只看该作者 19 发表于: 2008-01-25
hifi40cn 对NAIM的资料了解的更加深刻,呵呵

从变压器的能力上看,SUPERNAIT应该是和250相当了。

我觉得,可能NAIM的考虑:等同与NAIT 5I和122X+150X的比较,比较的对象却是NAIM的当家之作250+282,将其简化,保留其功率和推力,却少了密度感和张力,也就是说,是一台加大功率的NAIT 5i,又加了解码器,和前后的路数不一样,降低了发烧的一丝不苟,而是以更多的实用为准则,更多关注的是音色和使用的方便性,在发烧的程度上有一些妥协。。
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