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naim cd 使用din转rca接线的重大收获! [复制链接]

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只看楼主 倒序阅读 0 发表于: 2010-03-04
前几天为naim cd5i搞了一条din转rca线。
试用后反复试听,因此发帖分享

得到的重大收获有二:
1、浏览本帖子的人数会很多;
2、用din转rca线,与直接使用机上的rca输出,听不出什么差别!
之前有人介绍说,使用din输出,音质会有改善。
我看,机上的rca输出,根本就与din转rca线的做法一样,而且是在机内完成转接的,效果不会比另用转接线差。

正确的结论是,无论din,还是rca,只是信号输出的接口有差别而已,前端的处理是一样的。但用din线连接(当然只能连接naim本家的机子),可能会比rca连接会好(其实这是无从实验的,因为只有在naim功放、cd机上同时设置有rca端口时才能对比)。
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只看该作者 1 发表于: 2010-03-04
1、浏览本帖子的人数会很多;--------同意
2、用din转rca线,与直接使用机上的rca输出,听不出什么差别!--------不同意。因为有人就说他听出来了,你也没办法。你听不出因为你是泥耳朵,人家是铂金耳朵。

DIN只是一个接口形式,比RCA接口要简单,节省材料,连接稳固,线材结构与耳机线是一样的,2根信号线和一根地线外加屏蔽层,只是头子不一样而已。
NAIM CD的输出是选择应该是电子开关控制的,模拟放大电路只有一个,所以从原理上来说声音应该是一样的。
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只看该作者 2 发表于: 2010-03-04
这个要顶。

其实,这个根本就不值得去实验。

DIN是带电的,RCA是不带电的,这个是为问题的实质。

DIN转换头到了RCA,和机器内部输出转成RCA,更多的也就是插头和线材的不同,没有本质的差别,声音的差别是肯定有的,是插头插座和线材引发的,和玩线的道理是一样的。

完全没有必要去投入精力研究DIN-RCA,除非是老款的机器,没有RCA输出,不得已而为之,呵呵
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只看该作者 3 发表于: 2010-03-04
进来了,失望了,被标题了
只看该作者 4 发表于: 2010-03-04
用DIN的传输方式,即使线材一般,也有着非常好的传输性能,因为,它除了信号,还有电。

现在有的信号线什么的,也带了电,只是,用电池供电。
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玩音响,玩的就是电流和振动。
只看该作者 5 发表于: 2010-03-04

用DIN的传输方式,即使线材一般,也有着非常好的传输性能,因为,它除了信号,还有电。
现在有的信号线什么的,也带了电,只是,用电池供电。

din转输是带电的?原理是什么?
带电的信号线倒听说过,其实等于在信号线与地线间构成的“电容”上加电,加上一个静电场,据说是对信号传播有帮助。

din呢?其地线与信号线间也有电压?晚上得回去测量一下。
只看该作者 6 发表于: 2010-03-05
对这个实验感兴趣,希望有更多的大侠加入。
只看该作者 7 发表于: 2010-03-05
我现在想这样搞一个转接头,买一个DIN的母座,用两条很短的信号线分别接两个RCA头。
使用时:用原机配的DIN线,一头插CD机,一头插DIY的DIN母座,RCA接功放。
这样就可以保留原DIN线,只使用很短的一段其他线。

问题是,我至今未找到发烧级别的DIN母座,希望知道哪里有卖的大侠告知。
只看该作者 8 发表于: 2010-03-05

我现在想这样搞一个转接头,买一个DIN的母座,用两条很短的信号线分别接两个RCA头。
使用时:用原机配的DIN线,一头插CD机,一头插DIY的DIN母座,RCA接功放。
这样就可以保留原DIN线,只使用很短的一段其他线。
问题是,我至今未找到发烧级别的DIN母座,希望知道哪里有卖的大侠告知。

这种接法,值得一试。因为原配线可派上用场了。
我也找一个,试一试!
只看该作者 9 发表于: 2010-03-07
只翻译几个关键词。

A few reasons why we use DIN connections:

The obvious reason: DIN connections sound better than RCAs...

The phono plug, or RCA connector, as best as anyone can remember, was designed decades ago as a direct current (DC) power connector. Its design properties do not lend themselves to transferring music signals that have very low voltages (less Than 5 volts) of alternating current (AC). RCA为直流设计,欠于传输低压交流性质的音乐信号。 This is true - no matter how good the RCA plug is or whether it is made with gold, etc.

The first difficulty with the RCA connector is that it has a high-frequency capacitive impedance of around 高频容阻200 ohms; unfortunately, the typical cable that connects the two RCA plugs together has an impedance of about 50 ohms. In this situation, the two RCA connectors on either end of the cable act as reflective walls at higher frequencies and bounce information back and forth, trapping the signal and extending the decay time of the signal that is trying to pass from one component to the other. These reflections have an effect on musical information and are especially harmful to low-level signals, 对高频细节信号有陷阱回荡延伸作用,particularly quiet harmonics and underlying instruments, where the ringing that is generated by the loudest instruments will smear the smallest signals这样声音大的乐器信号会模糊掉声音小的乐器. The result is that the quiet instruments will blur or fade away when the loud ones come along. The complexities of the music and the tones of individual instruments get lost复杂的音乐和音色会丢失.

The DIN 接头和线的容阻相近plug has an impedance that is similar to the cable. It does not reflect like an RCA plug.

Furthermore, the system ground (which should be a stable connection point to which all signals and power supplies are referenced) is absolutely critical to the sonic performance of your hi-fi. A single reference ground point is important so that signal details are not lost in the small, yet significant voltage differences inevitable with separated ground paths.共同接地不会导致细节消失。

Many manufacturers point to the great trouble they take to "star ground" everything. Sadly, this is all wasted when you connect your system together with RCA-plugged cables. Why?

When you connect, for instance, a CD player to a preamp with RCA-plugged cable, you automatically have two separate ground wires - the left and right shields going between them. This creates a ground loop, which degrades the musical performance dramatically, and negates any efforts that were taken to ground the internal circuits properly.

If you were to connect these same two components together with DIN-plugged Naim interconnects, you would have only ONE cable with only ONE ground shield surrounding both the left and right signal wires. Hence, only one ground path for each connection and no ground loop.

Hope this helps....
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